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		<title>When a minus times a minus equals a plus</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 10:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul Brabban</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We all know from school that multiplying two negative numbers together gives a positive number, but can you think of a common-sense example of this rule in action that would convince someone who asked why? I got asked why recently and I couldn&#8217;t. Neither could anyone I asked. Plenty of examples involving mirrors and vectors [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know from school that multiplying two negative numbers together gives a positive number, but can you think of a common-sense example of this rule in action that would convince someone who asked why?</p>
<p>I got asked why recently and I couldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Neither could anyone I asked. Plenty of examples involving mirrors and vectors etc. but nothing that didn&#8217;t sound rather like illusion and trickery. Nothing convincing.</p>
<p>So &#8211; after some thought, here&#8217;s an example that convinced the person who asked me. (Well, they say they&#8217;re convinced-ish, but I think that&#8217;s about as good as it&#8217;s going to get!)</p>
<p>This example is about getting two everyday, dependent variables that we can set a zero point on both and thus deal with the positive and negative values in both. Imagine I have a big bucket of sweets, and I have been giving you ten sweets a month for years.</p>
<h4>How many more or less sweets do you have, six months from now?</h4>
<p>Intuitively, you have 60 more sweets, and we can calculate that because you get +10 sweets/month and we want to know how many you have in 6 months;</p>
<p>10 x 6 = 60. (plus x plus = plus)</p>
<h4>How about me? How many more or less sweets do I have, six months from now?</h4>
<p>We know that I have 60 sweets less, because you have 60 sweets more. We can calculate this because I get -10 sweets/month;</p>
<p>-10 x 6 = -60. (minus x plus = minus)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the easy ones done.</p>
<h4>How many more or less sweets did you have, six months ago?</h4>
<p>It should be easy to convince that if you have 60 sweets more in six months&#8217; time, then you had 60 sweets less six months ago. We can calculate it using the same 10 sweets/month, but -6 months to go back in time.</p>
<p>10 x -6 = -60 (plus x minus = minus)</p>
<h4>Finally, how many more or less sweets did I have, 6 months ago?</h4>
<p>I still get -10 sweets\month. Just because we&#8217;re considering the past, you don&#8217;t start giving them to me or anything. In the case above, we used -6 to represent &#8216;six months ago&#8217;. So&#8230;</p>
<p>-10 x -6 = +60 (minus x minus = plus)</p>
<p>Which gives us the intuitively correct answer, that if I give you 10 sweets a month then I had 60 more sweets, six months ago.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tough one to argue with, because the answers are pretty obvious. Do you have a better way to explain why minus times minus equals a plus?</p>
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